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推 FXW11314 : 之前看七星林董有說過是記憶體顆粒 42.77.66.76 11/10 19:40
→ FXW11314 : 配置的關係 42.77.66.76 11/10 19:40
推 tsukirit : 4000跟3600 設的時序太爛了吧 114.32.170.112 11/10 19:41
推 a7708101 : 可4我想上的板子沒有D4 怎辦? 36.230.214.112 11/10 19:42
→ william456 : 問題是目前最高只有5200,首發美光111.252.173.132 11/10 19:44
→ william456 : 顆粒烙賽要上5600的不多,海力士的111.252.173.132 11/10 19:44
→ william456 : 只有4800裸條,月底芝奇的z5不知會111.252.173.132 11/10 19:44
→ william456 : 不會上?111.252.173.132 11/10 19:44
→ william456 : Anyway要頂版就只有D5能選111.252.173.132 11/10 19:44
→ william456 : 但根本買不到:(111.252.173.132 11/10 19:45
推 tsukirit : 現在賣的燄光戟4000都是18-22-22-42 114.32.170.112 11/10 19:45
→ scarbywind : 問題是為了相容D4所以D5本身有被拉 123.241.2.123 11/10 19:45
→ tsukirit : 他不知道為啥 把延遲再拉高 114.32.170.112 11/10 19:46
推 ltytw : 在想AMD開始支援DDR5之後 照AMD的 125.224.73.163 11/10 19:49
→ ltytw : 尿性 不知道DDR5在AMD會不會更好 125.224.73.163 11/10 19:49
推 zxc2331189 : 貴延遲又高220.132.183.128 11/10 19:59
推 oopFoo : 給你看幾個差的很多的 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:05
→ oopFoo : https://i.imgur.com/zApjQiC.png 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:06
→ oopFoo : https://i.imgur.com/QTreklR.png 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:07
→ oopFoo : https://i.imgur.com/3PwNhsE.png 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:08
推 aigame : 4080出來我才會有動力組電腦 111.71.214.12 11/10 20:08
推 cerberus4523: AMD用DDR4多少測的啊 118.169.233.96 11/10 20:09
→ oopFoo : AI,Simulation,大數據的運算會差 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:10
→ oopFoo : 很多。Database,HF trading,高端 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:10
→ oopFoo : 網路程式。基本上普通人碰不到,但 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:11
→ oopFoo : 需要的人ddr4/5極端值可以差50%以上 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:12
→ oopFoo : 普通人真的ddr5目前用處不大。 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:13
→ oopFoo : 不過Anandtech的測試,ddr4用超爛 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:14
推 zxc6975197 : 他的4000怎麼不是跑gear 1,看林大 39.13.39.83 11/10 20:19
→ zxc6975197 : 的影片4000還是可以跑gear 1呀 39.13.39.83 11/10 20:19
推 AreLies : 4800 CL40/3200 CL22 114.33.193.113 11/10 20:22
→ AreLies : 都是原生時脈 這樣測沒問題 114.33.193.113 11/10 20:22
推 MK47 : 現在誰會買CL22啊 還不如測3200 16203.217.116.152 11/10 20:29
推 oopFoo : 是沒錯,但跟實際有點差距。 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:30
→ oopFoo : 工作站會拿cl22,穩定優先。 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:32
→ oopFoo : 不過現在想想,多開模擬器應該有差 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:32
推 AreLies : 都用JEDEC訂的標準 規格就是這樣 114.33.193.113 11/10 20:34
推 oude : 遊戲看中反應時間 專業軟體看頻寬 210.64.152.43 11/10 20:34
推 et239322 : 已經有人幹到4300 G1了,普遍能4000 220.129.160.55 11/10 20:36
推 DKnex : 高頻率就是跑不到1:1啊 111.71.221.1 11/10 20:41
→ DKnex : 記得Zen3甜蜜點是3800的樣子 111.71.221.1 11/10 20:41
→ DKnex : 往上就是1:2 111.71.221.1 11/10 20:41
→ DKnex : Intel印像中DDR4 4400有到1:1的 111.71.221.1 11/10 20:41
→ scarbywind : 並沒有.. 你fclk超多高就可以*2 123.241.2.123 11/10 20:50
→ scarbywind : 56x基本4000 1:1沒有問題 123.241.2.123 11/10 20:51
→ scarbywind : 基本上就算r5 3600也是不少可以3800 123.241.2.123 11/10 20:51
→ scarbywind : 1:1 123.241.2.123 11/10 20:51
推 zack0000 : D5怎麼有種跟I家11代感覺都來當炮灰 101.12.57.237 11/10 20:52
→ zack0000 : 的既視感 101.12.57.237 11/10 20:52
推 oopFoo : 基本上你軟體需要>32gb,ddr5就有差 49.216.40.19 11/10 20:56
→ jior : 現在買d5便宜的撐一下,以後上高速 101.12.90.184 11/10 20:56
→ jior : der 101.12.90.184 11/10 20:56
推 ltytw : 現在就說D5砲灰? 人家可是要模仿P4 125.224.73.163 11/10 20:59
→ ltytw : 狂拉頻率呢 125.224.73.163 11/10 20:59
推 fake0824 : 買未來啦!114.136.200.150 11/10 21:01
推 franchy : intel的d4-3600有可能會跑Gear2 223.136.168.47 11/10 21:01
推 maplefoxs : d4-3600應該能跑gear 1 219.91.96.114 11/10 21:08
→ maplefoxs : 其實問題在分頻 不是d5的問題 219.91.96.114 11/10 21:08
推 terry1043 : 記憶體初期本來就這樣 我DDR3 2400 114.34.118.110 11/10 21:31
→ terry1043 : 也用很久才換D4平台 114.34.118.110 11/10 21:32
→ filiaslayers: 3600 C16還叫爛喔?那我C18不就要填 220.133.46.215 11/10 21:33
推 Dcpp2015 : D5的問題就是延遲太高。只有少數很 36.236.82.23 11/10 21:33
→ Dcpp2015 : 吃頻寬的軟體,才會有優勢,一般普 36.236.82.23 11/10 21:33
→ Dcpp2015 : 通使用還是D4的低延遲比較好。 36.236.82.23 11/10 21:33
→ filiaslayers: 海了... 220.133.46.215 11/10 21:33
→ a58524andy : 怕d4賣不完484114.136.230.214 11/10 22:10
推 saimeitetsu : 估計apu差異會很有感 223.140.237.92 11/10 22:19
推 kuninaka : 大家用的軟體還不需要DDR5的高頻寬 61.227.124.35 11/10 22:26
推 cvn21 : DDR本身就是虛標產品啊 1.200.13.165 11/10 22:30
→ cvn21 : 虛的程度隨著帳面數字越大也越明顯 1.200.13.165 11/10 22:30
推 aegis43210 : 嗯,GPU對延遲比較不敏感223.136.193.234 11/10 23:01
推 b131325 : 支援性問題,過去沒幾個人達到這麼 114.40.16.228 11/11 00:28
→ b131325 : 高頻,軟體自然不會寫,反正都是買 114.40.16.228 11/11 00:28
→ b131325 : 未來 114.40.16.228 11/11 00:28
推 zoo0602 : 感謝分享,但好的板子都出DDR5的死 60.248.80.45 11/11 00:57
→ zoo0602 : 都不出DDR4板傷腦筋只能等到過年前 60.248.80.45 11/11 00:57
→ zoo0602 : 後再看看了 60.248.80.45 11/11 00:57
推 ariadne : Ram影響AMD跑分比intel大不是嗎?220.133.244.143 11/11 01:55
→ ariadne : 為什麼可以用影響intel設計小 所以220.133.244.143 11/11 01:55
→ ariadne : 推論AMD上DDR5跑分也不會差多少?XD220.133.244.143 11/11 01:56
推 AstraH : 模擬器多開 用DDR5會比較好嗎? 1.173.156.16 11/11 03:02
推 IhateOGC : 穩定性呢?會不會像and一週至少當 27.52.30.42 11/11 03:12
→ IhateOGC : 機一次 27.52.30.42 11/11 03:12
推 denix : 跑到gear2都烙賽122.116.160.162 11/11 10:11
推 Luciferspear: 簽名檔也太哭 111.71.70.146 11/16 12:49