Re: [討論] 96年黃金梯次重新選一次

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作者 Maeno (老墨)
時間 2006-06-03 20:48:02
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ESPN insider也有一個mock draft的專欄, 就是用現在各球員的成就, 排出一個事後諸葛版的選秀順位: 1. Philadelphia Allen Iverson Kobe Bryant In one of the great draft moves in history, the Lakers traded Vlade Divac to Charlotte for Bryant, who the Hornets had just selected with the No. 13 pick. Normally one would say L.A. overpaid by giving up Divac for a mid-first-rounder, but not in this case. Meanwhile, the Sixers passed up the chance to keep Kobe in his hometown. 2. Toronto Marcus Camby 迳 Allen Iverson Beats out Bryant in MVPs, scoring titles and jersey sales but lags well behind in the things that win games. Iverson's 41.8 percent shooting can't match Kobe's 45.2 percent, and Kobe's advantage in True Shooting Percentage is even greater. 3. Vancouver(Memphis) Shareef Abdur-Rahim迳Ray Allen The Bucks traded Stephon Marbury to get the "lesser" player in Allen, but I doubt they're upset about the trade. He's been a reliable All-Star- caliber performer but amazingly was only the third-best shooting guard in his class. 4. Milwaukee Stephon Marbury迳Jermaine O'Neal O'Neal's best seasons are slightly better than Allen's, but he's had far fewer of them because he was stuck on the pine in Portland for so long. Still, it's rare for the best big man in a draft class to be selected with the 17th overall pick, so kudos to the Blazers for that. 5. Minnesota Ray Allen迳Stephon Marbury Players No. 5 through 9 on this list may surprise you, because they run counter to how the players are perceived today. In general, it's best to understand the rankings not by asking "Who is better right now?" but rather "Who has been better to have since 1996?" For instance, Steve Nash was undeniably better than Marbury last season. But for the first five years of his career, Nash was a secondary player while Marbury was a star. So would you rather draft Marbury and get 18 and 8 right away or take Nash and wait six years for him to become an All-Star? Marbury outrated Nash in his first five seasons, and in four of them the difference was enormous. His career PER still comfortably tops Nash, and he's been more durable, too. 6. Boston Antoine Walker迳Shareef Abdur-Rahim This may surprise you even more than the Marbury rating, but Abdur- Rahim produced immediately (18.7 ppg as a rookie), stayed at a high level (career averages of 19.8 ppg and 8.1 rpg) and, until last year, never got hurt. As a result, he has a higher career PER than all but the top three players on the 1996 list and ranks fourth from his class in minutes played. 'Reef takes a lot of unfair abuse for not making the playoffs, but he wasn't the one choosing his teammates. 7. L.A. Clippers Lorenzen Wright迳Steve Nash His past three seasons are better than anything that Marbury and Abdur-Rahim have done, but his overall contribution still falls short compared to theirs. If I were Minnesota and had today's salary cap rules on my side (so that Marbury couldn't have forced his way out so easily), I still would have preferred the immediate juice from Marbury to the long lag time with Nash 8. New Jersey Kerry Kittles Peja Stojakovic From 1996 to 2001, a few smart teams realized they could draft international players in the first round and get huge talents at discount prices. Stojakovic, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Dirk Nowitzki, Andrei Kirilenko, Manu Ginobili, Primoz Brezec, Hedo Turkoglu, Marko Jaric, Pau Gasol and Vladimir Radmanovic were all obtained this way, but the trend suddenly careened off the tracks with the selection of Nikoloz Tskitishvili in 2002. 9. Dallas Samaki Walker Ben Wallace Big Ben went undrafted, but that was clearly an oversight. The three- time defensive player of the year could arguably rank higher – and probably would but for his miserable offensive output. Nonetheless, it's safe to say Dallas would have preferred Wallace at No. 9 to its actual pick – Samaki Walker. 10. Indiana Erick Dampier Zydrunas Ilgauskas Yet another All-Star-caliber player from the 1996 draft and the third star big man to be snubbed in the lottery. Ilgauskas went 20th overall to the Cavs in '96 and he wasn't even their favorite pick – Cleveland had taken Vitaly Potapenko at No. 12. 11. Golden State Todd Fuller Antoine Walker It's unusual for a three-time All-Star to only be the 11th-best player from a draft class. But then again, it's rare for a single draft to produce 11 All-Stars, and Walker is pretty clearly the worst of the 11. 12. Cleveland Vitaly Potapenko Marcus Camby On a per-minute basis, Walker can't light a candle to Camby. Unfortunately, Camby's availability has been an issue. Since the Raptors selected him with the second overall pick, Cotton Camby has barely played half as many minutes as Walker thanks to a stunning variety of injuries. 13. Charlotte(New Orleans) Kobe Bryant Kerry Kittles The eighth overall pick, Kittles would have justified that selection in almost any other draft. He beat out several other quality players – including Erick Dampier, Malik Rose, Jerome Williams and Derek Fisher – to grab the final lottery spot in this exercise. 總結一下, ESPN 編輯群們是以過去十年來的表現來評論, 而不是最近三年, 所以Steve Nash就只排到了No.7 而默默付出, 本梯的鐵人Abdur-Rahim並沒被忘記, 至於個人則要小小替AI叫個屈, 費城在以他為中心, 快速走出重建期, 擠身東區列強並問鼎過總冠軍後, 在無數次的被擊倒-重新爬起後, 在奔馳的Phila#3球衣幾乎已成城市icon之後, 似乎也不能說AI虧欠費城什麼了, 這也讓我想到一代中鋒Patrick Ewing球衣在Madison Square Garden退休那天, 我看到令人五味雜陳的兩句話: "沒有哪個球員虧欠一個城市, 像Ewing虧欠紐約這麼多, " ---以他為中心重建這麼久, 身旁名帥副手來來去去, 始終與冠軍無緣... "但也沒有哪一個城市虧欠一個球員, 能像紐約虧欠Ewing這麼多" ---刻薄的媒體, 毫不包容的噓聲, 從未間斷的批評, 諷刺地在他受傷時演出 老八傳奇... Btw, 黃金96真的越看越有the great 84 class的味道, 裡面提到最好的射手之一: Ray Allen, "但令人訝異的是, 他只是這個選秀會上第三好的得分後衛" 提到剛打進Final的Antoine Walker, "一個三屆全明星, 只排到No.11是有點怪異, 但你看過有哪一梯出產了11個全明星?" 二十啷噹的我們, 孺慕地抓到84的尾巴, 目睹96一路走來, 現在又看到03的爆長, 很幸運! 不是嗎?! -- Victory is never away. -- ◆ From: 203.64.246.17
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cle26:我一直覺得我很幸運 能夠看到jordan打球 XD 06/03 20:51

Iversonchi:好文推 ^^ 06/03 20:55

bonka18:推好文~~ 06/03 20:56

whowherehow:push 06/03 21:05

wurenben:如果nba的gm都那麼有先見之明,manu也不會落到58順位 06/03 21:05

fenglingling:推...超幸運的吧...... 我愛AI 06/03 21:07

motoman:Ewing當初被一通電話得知送到西雅圖後 在市區逛了5小時 06/03 21:18

motoman:還捨不得走 06/03 21:19

RainyDays:我一直覺得我很幸運 可以看到AI打球 06/03 21:19

rahim1211:好文推...還記得SAR是好球員的人 不多 06/03 21:27

rahim1211:有幸看過MJ和AI單挑的人更是無比幸福吧 06/03 21:28

Price:推這篇~ 06/03 21:30

TonyBlair:如果AI長得像A.Walker,還有人會喜歡他嗎? 06/03 21:42

AliceJapan:推樓上 好中肯 06/03 21:58

CGary:可惜紐約的GM一直都挺腦殘的...再加上Ewing遇上了老喬... 06/03 22:07

Sephiroth:推...最後一段的確是 06/03 22:10

sirleon:很有感觸的文章 06/03 23:23

taichi53719:最後幾句話好有感覺阿^^ 06/04 00:27

yester:推最後的btw 06/04 00:27

u2gogowin:推推~~ 06/04 01:02

studylance:推 最後幾句真的很有感覺! 06/04 02:05

changyiyao: 推 抓84尾 目睹96 再看03暴走 06/04 12:26

rogerchou:最後幾句太過矯情了吧.... 失敗 06/04 14:53

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