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The micro and macro adjustments that led to the Warriors’ 2-1 series lead over
the Rockets
Dubs gain control of the driver’s seat despite Jimmy Butler’s absence.
By Joe Viray@JoeVirayNBA Apr 27, 2025, 10:32am PDT 8 Comments / 12 New
With the rather unfortunate news of Jimmy Butler’s absence in Game 3 — forcing
Steve Kerr to rethink his starting lineup and rotations — the Golden State War
riors were, on paper, faced with an enormous mountain to climb, with Steph Curry
being their only consistent shot creator, advantage generator, and point produc
er left on the team, in a 6’2” package that recently just saw its 37th year of
existence.
隨著Jimmy Butler確定缺席第三戰這一不幸消息傳來，Steve Kerr被迫重新思考先發陣容與
輪換安排。理論上，金州勇士面臨一座巨大的高山，因為隊上只剩下Steph Curry這位穩定
的進攻發動者、優勢製造者與得分來源，而且這位6呎2吋的後衛，剛剛度過了37歲生日。
To put it simply, Curry is considered old in professional basketball circles. Bu
t old age hasn’t stopped him from continuing his elite ways. Despite that truth
, the burden he was suddenly inundated with doesn’t help him get any younger —
nor does it make the Houston Rockets’ job trying to contain him any harder, at
least on paper. It was easy as putting two to the ball with Curry handling the
rock, or continuing their physical ways off the ball through a variety of ways t
hat tread the thin line between acceptable physicality and mauling.
簡單來說，Curry在職業籃球中已被視為老將。但年齡並沒有阻止他持續打出頂尖表現。儘
管如此，突如其來的重擔並不會讓他變年輕，也不會讓休士頓火箭在防守他時變得更困難，
至少理論上是如此。只要對Curry持球施以雙人包夾，或者在無球時以各種近乎犯規的肢體
接觸限制他，似乎就能奏效。
But after the Warriors’ 104-93 win over the Rockets to take a 2-1 series lead
— without Butler’s services, to boot — a retrospective lens on what brought a
bout the win shines a light on Curry’s brilliance, the much-needed support he w
as able to receive, and Kerr pushing the right buttons to make sure Curry and co
mpany thrived. The first decision Kerr made was perhaps the one that flew under
the radar — but arguably was just as impactful and contributory to their win.
然而，勇士最終以104比93擊敗火箭，取得2比1系列賽領先，且是在沒有Butler助陣的情況
下。回顧這場勝利，可以看到Curry的卓越表現、隊友適時的支援，以及Kerr正確的調度決
策。Kerr的第一個決定或許並未引起太多注意，但可以說對勝利同樣關鍵。
Starting Quinten Post
啟用Quinten Post先發
With Butler sidelined, Kerr made the decision to start Jonathan Kuminga in his p
lace — a decision made to remedy the lack of a secondary scoring option behind
Curry. The controversial Kuminga has had his share of ups and downs, but never h
as the latter been more pronounced than it has been after Butler’s acquisition.
Kuminga’s inability to coexist in an efficient manner with Butler has forced K
err to make the decision of benching Kuminga on a permanent basis.
在Butler缺陣後，Kerr決定讓Jonathan Kuminga頂替先發，目的是解決Curry之外缺乏第二
得分點的問題。一直以來表現起伏不定的Kuminga，在Butler加盟後表現低迷的問題更加明
顯。Kuminga無法有效與Butler共存，使得Kerr不得不將他長期擺上板凳。
However, Kerr decided to dust Kuminga off after Butler went down, which created
a ripple effect across the rest of the starting lineup. Kerr felt the need to ex
pand Kuminga’s room to operate, and therefore started Quinten Post at the five
to create room, at the expense of Moses Moody. That decision to start Post in fa
vor of offense came with risks on the other end — namely, Post potentially bein
g targeted by Jalen Green in pick-and-roll action, a talking point from the Rock
ets’ Game 2 victory.
然而，在Butler受傷後，Kerr重新啟用Kuminga，並連帶影響了其他先發陣容的配置。為了
給Kuminga更多進攻空間，Kerr決定讓Quinten Post擔任五號位，取代Moses Moody。這項以
進攻為優先的調整，帶來的風險是防守端問題，特別是Post可能成為Jalen Green擋拆進攻
的主要目標，這也是火箭第二戰獲勝時的重要因素之一。
In order to minimize Post from having to defend against Jalen in pick-and-roll s
ituations, Kerr shuffled Post away from defending Alperen Sengun toward “guardi
ng” Amen Thompson. Post was comfortable with sagging off of Thompson — a non-t
hreat from the perimeter and otherwise limited in his ability to self-create and
make passing reads — in order to stay close to the rim and be in a position to
contest drives and, more importantly, grab defensive boards.
為了減少Post在擋拆中必須對位Jalen的情況，Kerr安排Post從原本防守Alperen Sengun轉
向「防守」Amen Thompson。Post可以放心放掉Thompson這名外線威脅有限、個人進攻與傳
球視野都不足的球員，藉此留在禁區附近，準備封阻切入或更重要地，保護籃板。
https://i.imgur.com/XKK67ct.gif
In the event that the Rockets decided to bring Thompson up to screen for Jalen,
the Warriors were content with having Post defend, with the knowledge that Thomp
son is a far inferior screener than Sengun, which allowed Jalen’s defender to n
avigate screens and allow Post to stay in contain mode comfortably:
如果火箭選擇讓Thompson為Jalen設擋，勇士也能接受，因為Thompson的掩護能力遠不如Sen
gun，讓防守Jalen的球員能夠穿越掩護，Post則可以輕鬆維持守在籃下的姿態：
https://i.imgur.com/EYHPnHR.gif
In the possession above, having Thompson set the screen makes Jalen-centered bal
l-screen actions less effective than if Sengun was the one setting the screen. W
hen the Rockets do eventually default to Sengun as the screener, it isn’t Post
being involved in the action — rather, it’s the more capable Draymond Green:
在上述這波進攻中，由Thompson來設掩護，使得以Jalen為核心的擋拆進攻威脅大幅下降。
當火箭最終還是回歸讓Sengun設掩護時，參與防守的人也不是Post，而是防守更好的Draymo
nd Green：
https://i.imgur.com/1FgwAQ9.gif
But the Warriors also tried to uninvolve Post as much as possible, even if he wa
s guarding Thompson. When Fred VanVleet motions for Thompson to come up and scre
en for Jalen, watch how the Warriors take that option away:
不過，勇士也盡量避免讓Post參與防守，即便他防的是Thompson。當Fred VanVleet示意Tho
mpson上來為Jalen設掩護時，勇士是這樣化解這個局面的：
https://i.imgur.com/Wk5qUhH.gif
Post and Brandin Podziemski exchange assignments — Post taking VanVleet and Pod
ziemski taking Thompson — in a maneuver called “pre-switching,” resulting Pod
ziemski switching onto Green. Thus, Post is far removed from the action:
Post與Brandin Podziemski互換防守對象——Post去防守VanVleet，Podziemski則接手Thom
pson——這種動作稱為「預先換防」（pre-switching），最後由Podziemski換防到Green身
上，因此Post被成功地遠離了進攻：
https://i.imgur.com/ZBHLdLd.gif
While Post wasn’t impactful with his scoring, he was able to slot into an arche
type more befitting of his 7-foot frame. He protected the rim, discouraged shots
, dared Thompson to put the ball down and create, and did manage to grab 12 rebo
unds — all of which translated to the Warriors winning Post’s minutes by a sev
en-point margin.
儘管Post在得分端的表現並不突出，但他成功地融入了符合他七呎身材的角色。他保護籃框
、干擾對手出手、迫使Thompson必須自己持球進攻，並搶下了12個籃板——這一切最終讓勇
士在Post上場的時間段贏了火箭7分。
Curry’s impact, troubleshooting, and pairing with Gary Payton II
Curry的影響力、臨場修正，以及與Gary Payton II的搭配
In a vacuum, Curry’s brilliance is undeniable, with its impressive nature match
ed only by how impressively dependent the Warriors’ offense is and always has b
een on Curry’s ability to warp defenses to an unprecedented degree. Kerr made t
he decision to stretch Curry’s minutes to 41 — a decision made easier by Kerr
’s cumulative decisions over the course of the regular season that resulted in
Curry averaging 32.2 minutes in the regular season, which kept Curry as ready an
d fresh as possible for high-stakes playoff minutes.
單從個體來看，Curry的天賦毋庸置疑，而同樣令人驚嘆的是，勇士隊的進攻過去與現在都
極度仰賴Curry吸引防守的能力。Kerr決定將Curry的上場時間拉長到41分鐘——這個決定之
所以能順利實施，要歸功於Kerr在例行賽期間刻意控制Curry場均出賽僅32.2分鐘，讓他能
以最佳狀態迎戰高張力的季後賽。
Curry dropped 36 points on 67.9% True Shooting, to go along with 7 rebounds and
9 assists. Before Curry’s stretch of successful offense (in a game that needed
every bit of it, considering how the Warriors were limited to just 64.4 points s
cored per 100 possessions in the half court at halftime), the Rockets were havin
g success containing Curry-centered actions both on and off the ball.
Curry本場砍下36分，真實命中率高達67.9%，外加7籃板9助攻。在Curry爆發得分之前（這
場比賽勇士非常需要他的火力，因為上半場每百回合僅能在半場進攻中拿到64.4分），火箭
曾成功限制了以Curry為中心的各種持球與無球進攻。
An example of the latter: the Rockets switching a baseline out-of-bounds set tha
t had Curry set a screen for the inbounder, in which Curry’s defender and the i
nbounder’s defender simply switched.
舉個無球進攻被限制的例子：在一次底線發球戰術中，Curry為發球者設掩護，火箭選擇直
接將Curry的防守者與發球者的防守者互換，成功破解。
https://i.imgur.com/ZFftHsG.gif
In its most ideal form, the set aims to weaponize Curry as a screener in order t
o take advantage of one fundamental tenet: most defenders do not want to detach
off of Curry.
這個戰術設計的理想狀況，是將Curry作為掩護者武器化，利用一個基本原則：大多數防守
者都不願意輕易放掉Curry。
https://i.imgur.com/nOCNN9K.jpeg
Fast forward to much later in the game, where the Warriors run the same exact BL
OB (called “Rub”). Curry’s defender and the inbounder’s defender once again
prepare to switch, but instead of following through on his screen, Curry quickly
comes off of Kevon Looney’s exit screen — catching Curry’s man off guard and
unable to navigate over the screen on time:
到了比賽後段，勇士再度跑同樣的底線發球戰術（稱為「Rub」）。這次，當Curry與發球者
的防守者準備互換時，Curry沒有按部就班完成掩護動作，而是迅速繞出Kevon Looney的出
口掩護，使自己的防守者措手不及，來不及及時越過掩護。
https://i.imgur.com/ozAblC2.gif
Such micro-adjustments were lost in the shuffle of the overall picture, one that
mostly consisted of Curry’s self-creation exploits and his playmaking for his
teammates, most of which came through his ability to draw two to the ball. Gary
Payton II was the notable beneficiary of such situations — although, to start,
it wasn’t as seamless as it was expected to be.
這些微調細節可能在整體畫面中容易被忽略，因為大部分時間焦點集中在Curry個人創造機
會以及為隊友製造空檔的能力上，而這一切大多源自於他吸引雙人包夾的威脅。Gary Payto
n II是這些情境下最明顯的受益者——儘管一開始兩人的搭配並不如想像中順暢。
Curry and Payton were initially out of sync with their timing in ball-screen act
ions. Curry’s pass to Payton below was not ideal, with Payton holding the scree
n perhaps a beat too long:
起初，Curry與Payton在擋拆時機上的默契並不一致。下面這次Curry傳給Payton的球就不是
很理想，因為Payton可能在掩護的位置停留得太久了：
https://i.imgur.com/IMyEweA.gif
A problem with which the remedy was simple: Payton opting not to set the screen
and instead slipping the screen in order to take full advantage of a lane opened
by two defenders jumping out toward Curry:
這個問題的解決方式很簡單：Payton乾脆不設掩護，而是「假掩護」（slip the screen）
，直接切入，充分利用兩名防守者夾擊Curry後留下的空檔。
https://i.imgur.com/07BWTzC.gif
https://i.imgur.com/XDY79YC.gif
To go along with the bigger-picture decisions made — one of which was Kerr opti
ng to close the game with Curry, Podziemski, Buddy Hield (17 points on 65.4% TS)
, Payton, and Draymond, a lineup that outscored the Rockets by seven points in j
ust under four minutes of game time — these micro-adjustments in terms of tacti
cs, lineup decisions, and matchups collectively made up what was a scintillating
Game 3 victory. More importantly, it was one that put the Warriors in the drive
r’s seat without the need for their second-best driver.
搭配著更宏觀的戰術決策——其中包括Kerr在比賽最後階段派上Curry、Podziemski、Buddy
Hield（17分、真實命中率65.4%）、Payton與Draymond這組五人小陣容，在短短不到四分
鐘內淨勝火箭七分——這些戰術細節、陣容選擇與對位調整，最終構成了這場令人驚艷的第
三戰勝利。更重要的是，這場勝利讓勇士在系列賽中掌握了主動權，而不需要仰賴他們的第
二號核心。
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→ ccccccccccc: 跟G1同一個作者 G2應該也有 但突然少人我覺得沒什麼 04/28 13:42
→ ccccccccccc: 好復盤的 04/28 13:42
推 yuj831210: 推 04/28 13:49
推 darkMood: 讚讚讚 04/28 14:18
推 CW4: 推 看Joe Viray的分析對於提升籃球視野跟思維很有幫助 04/28 14:27
→ CW4: 另外推“看見星號”這個youtuber 也在很多方面值得學習 04/28 14:29
推 dream6789: 推CW4，請問是「NBA畫上星號」？ 04/28 14:36
推 killuaz: 推推 04/28 14:39
推 CW4: 啊是那個名稱才對 我只記得有“星號” 但我平常都有在看lol 04/28 14:42
推 MTK515: 推推文章 CW4大好久不見 04/28 14:48
推 CW4: 好久不見 04/28 14:57
推 waderu: 推 04/28 14:57
推 norman552200: 推 好文 明天必勝 04/28 15:01
推 jasonalone: 推 04/28 15:15
推 alain: 終於有篇不會酸柯學家不會調度的好文惹 推 04/28 15:20
→ alain: 變陣也要球員可以馬上做出應對 Post這點值得牡蠣 04/28 15:20
推 kobebrian: 星號很好看 04/28 15:22
推 vanassa: 推 04/28 15:27
推 malain: G2回想起來太臨時了，吉巴馬上倒，波妞病到完全不能用， 04/28 15:59
→ malain: 先發倒兩個game plan直接亂掉，沒被完全碾壓過去，其他球 04/28 15:59
→ malain: 員也是夠撐了。 04/28 15:59
→ norman552200: G2還能追分確實實力還是很有的，當時就只差一口氣 04/28 16:24
推 chinhan1216: https://i.imgur.com/nWmuXYS.jpeg 04/28 16:50
→ chinhan1216: 三場總得分 2-8名都火箭 04/28 16:50
推 kaede0711: 星號的確也是蠻認真的YT 04/28 16:59
推 malain: 這邊也想幫波妞講兩句，從季初被罵爛到現在，看文章內的 04/28 17:05
→ malain: 幾個gif，以一個二年級生第一次打這種高強度的比賽，腦袋 04/28 17:05
→ malain: 算很清楚的，從附加賽前的幾場硬戰開始打到現在，沒有他 04/28 17:05
→ malain: 的苦工跟細節是很艱難的 04/28 17:05
推 kobebrian: 星號跟庫奇想法也都蠻接近的 04/28 17:06
→ MK12: 也長的蠻像 04/28 17:17
→ MK12: 他們都算少數懂戰術細節的人 04/28 17:17
→ MK12: Tier 1 車神 Tier 2 追追雄 庫奇 星號 Tier 3之後就不列了 04/28 17:18
推 eliczone: 推推 這場有許多值得之後細細品味的地方 04/28 17:28
推 wu5834: 庫奇 劃上星號 這兩位是目前最棒的籃球YT 04/28 17:40
推 wu5834: sky 後撤步也不錯 前者偏選秀 後者則是毒奶...我是說薪資 04/28 17:41
推 wu5834: 追追熊是神級的 可惜是年更型YT 04/28 17:42
推 andy89431030: 追追熊就是不更才掉到t2嗎 04/28 18:06
推 andycylee: 反正比某GM專業多了 04/28 18:31
推 jkkert: 追追熊解說獨行俠如何建立防守體系蠻精彩的 04/28 18:41
推 sosoana: 某些人一直在酸Kerr擺三衛是個爛教練什麼的 04/28 18:46
→ sosoana: 都看不到G3第一節後半到第二節前半那8分鐘那進攻沒啥空 04/28 18:46
→ sosoana: 間的死樣子 總共才得八分 04/28 18:46
→ sosoana: 換三衛陣上來咖哩大神就有空間出手追分了 04/28 18:46
推 opse1020: GP2真的讓我感動 04/28 18:46
→ sosoana: 反正沒有上他們喜歡的鋒線Kerr就是個爛教練 04/28 18:46
→ sosoana: 還一直黑GP2我真的不知道他們心態是什麼 04/28 18:47
→ sosoana: 昨天沒GP2不會贏 04/28 18:47
推 kobebrian: GP2不是後衛 他是鋒線… 04/28 18:54
推 Wxu: 追追熊 車神 真的讚，最近星號也還不錯 04/28 19:04
推 zyic: 他是鋒線，那還吵什麼三後衛四後衛 04/28 19:08
推 Takadanobaba: 第三戰關門就三衛啊，curry podz buddy。也不知道 04/28 19:11
→ Takadanobaba: 誰帶風向，就愛嘴kerr擺三衛，為何？因為擺兩個鋒 04/28 19:11
→ Takadanobaba: 線代表JK不能上。不要說三衛被嘴，連搭配的兩個鋒 04/28 19:11
→ Takadanobaba: 線都被嘴，wiggings被嘴過，KT被嘴過，lamb被嘴過 04/28 19:11
→ Takadanobaba: ，santos被嘴過，gp2被嘴過。懶得細數了.... 04/28 19:11
推 freshbox7: 連Tier排名都出來了 XD 04/28 19:37
推 kobebrian: KT被嘴是要換moody 洗什麼記憶 怪球員受傷的戳仔 04/28 19:44
→ kobebrian: Wiggins被嘴過？當時要上的叫三鋒線 哪來的被嘴過 04/28 19:45
→ kobebrian: 是嘴他狀態差不是嘴他不要上場 04/28 19:45
→ kobebrian: 吵什麼？問科學家為什麼拉空間上的是手套不是moody 04/28 19:46
→ kobebrian: 啊 你以為？ 04/28 19:46
→ kobebrian: 當時就說三鋒線會是勇士陣容上限最高的 後來melton 04/28 19:47
→ kobebrian: 搭起來也真的很猛 三後衛跟當時的三鋒線白痴都會用 04/28 19:47
→ kobebrian: 三鋒線 04/28 19:47
推 norman552200: GP2的三分很猛 他是射手 04/28 19:48
→ kobebrian: lamb 被嘴是因為到了季後賽他也不會上場了 那還不 04/28 19:49
→ kobebrian: 如練一個季後賽也不會上場的新人 懂？ 04/28 19:49
推 Hard1980: 好文推 沒料Kerr繼續冰苦命嘎 04/28 19:58
推 inuyaksa: 推 04/28 19:59
推 alain: 現在是吃飯 看球 吵JK嗎XD 04/28 20:06
推 sosoana: 在某些人眼裡GP2那麼矮是個假鋒線真後衛 04/28 20:14
→ sosoana: 然後防守沒多好的噁心言論都能講出來 04/28 20:14
→ sosoana: 贏球後就都躲起來… 04/28 20:14
→ sosoana: 那些輸球時跑來黑其他勇士球員的你說他們是姆咪反串我都 04/28 20:20
→ sosoana: 信 04/28 20:20
→ sosoana: 真心支持勇士會一直黑其他人搞分化？ 04/28 20:21
推 Aether13: 真多細節 正常看根本看不太出來 我已經準備好道歉表單了 04/28 20:24
推 a0939877325: 我善導寺黑啦 我這樣算勇迷嗎:(( 04/28 20:25
→ Aether13: 會黑gp2的就球盲 不然就反串 04/28 20:26
推 sosoana: Kerr把post的缺點掩蓋起來真的有料 04/28 20:26
→ sosoana: 而且他也很爭氣的搶了很多籃板 04/28 20:26
→ sosoana: 對面可是全聯盟最會搶進攻籃板的球隊 04/28 20:26
推 saviornight: 善導寺態度很討喜阿 只是實在是太多莫名發生的失誤了 04/28 20:28
推 Hard1980: GP2第四節的+2+2+3+2太關鍵 原來是有細節der 04/28 20:30
→ sosoana: 而且第二節後段的確是擺Curry Podz跟巴弟 04/28 20:34
→ sosoana: 三衛陣上來拉空間解除得分便秘沒錯啊 04/28 20:34
推 malain: 欸不是，你們中間那段是怎麼鬼轉去吵阿嘎的？ 04/28 20:52
推 ckethan: 追追熊我同學結婚搬去明州後就很少更新了 04/28 21:07
推 Riemann: 是說 yt 嗨賴名人堂推薦嗎？ 偶爾也會被演算法推送這個頻 04/28 21:16
→ Riemann: 道，但他好像講球星為主，沒提什麼戰術 04/28 21:16
推 kobebrian: 有人嘴臭沒人管制啊 04/28 21:35
推 monkey6: 太吾車神推，針對戰術分析和球員特點都有深層解讀 04/28 21:36
推 CZH0830: 看JJ對比KERR就知道KERR還是很有聊的 04/28 21:51
推 kobebrian: 湖人菜也就那樣 勇士本來板凳群就比較強 04/28 22:06
推 AizenSousuke: 剛剛逛了一下姆咪他們家，好崩潰好療育XD 04/28 22:12
→ AizenSousuke: 那群傻逼輸球還是可以狂吹LBJ，真是不簡單 04/28 22:12
推 rainy0312: 娛樂性的話轟酷還不錯 04/28 22:15
推 zyic: 我們今年助教很強，聯防今年趨勢大家都在守 04/28 22:20
推 chipretender: 姆斯咖哩今年都還是強啊，差別就管理層和教練強弱了 04/28 22:23
→ chipretender: 。 04/28 22:23
推 eason1065: 大家來猜猜明天G8會上還是再休一場 04/28 22:33
推 panjanhon: 會休吧 04/28 22:42
推 www90173: 推 04/28 22:43
推 JL46: To ckethan大...原來熊大現居在美國的明尼蘇達州！感謝告知~ 04/28 23:00
推 JL46: 有請ckethan大您幫忙轉告熊大，說批踢踢金州勇士板的板友們 04/28 23:01
推 JL46: 很想念追追熊大，若熊大有暇...本板上下很期待他的高見卓識~ 04/28 23:04
推 drcula: 我是覺得吉巴還是在休比較好,養好傷才好拚,要上也控時間 04/28 23:04
推 JL46: 喔喔...看到CW4大在前面幾則推文，真是開心啊！(＞▽＜)\~/ 04/28 23:17
推 JL46: 謝ccccccccccc大翻譯本篇專欄文，並張貼本板供板友拜讀~ :) 04/28 23:23
推 alain: 我猜吉巴至少會上場打十分鐘XD 04/28 23:43
→ alain: 但看到今天小李爆掉又很難說了... 04/28 23:43
推 waderu: https://youtu.be/D7np1scnQbY 不錯的復盤解說 04/28 23:55
推 DamnAlfie: 癮飯NBA也不錯耶 04/29 00:16
推 norman552200: 能搶三勝 我猜吉巴會上 04/29 00:50
推 flylife0527: 苦命坐好 04/29 00:52
推 darkMood: 癮飯這片也不錯，kerr 突然變成有腦教練啦。 04/29 01:02
推 LuxJason: 開個玩笑，會不會今年跌跌撞撞拿到冠軍結果還在吵JK X 04/29 03:01
→ LuxJason: D 04/29 03:01
→ karmel: 小李真的蠻慘的 直接斷阿基里斯腱 ... 04/29 03:02
推 malain: 老對手了，跟浪花綠也是友善，只能祝福後續安好了QQ 04/29 03:08
推 JL46: 小的衷祝Lillard早日康復、日漸痊可，他日再展雄風，加油~:) 04/29 03:12
推 LuxJason: 咖哩拿最佳古亭妹獎 04/29 03:20
→ LuxJason: 話說不到12小時開打居然沒有吉巴的消息 04/29 03:21
推 Knicksmelo: 目前GTD 推測應該會跟上一場一樣流程 賽前治療後評 04/29 03:46
→ Knicksmelo: 估 04/29 03:46
推 dark0224: 推 04/29 05:13
推 j3307002: 這篇大概就是說波斯特扮演巴特勒受傷後的奇兵 04/29 06:43
→ j3307002: 可惜的是庫明家還是沒有在巴特勒受傷的時候證明自己 04/29 06:43
→ j3307002: 庫明家只能在巴特勒受傷後上場,且只有防守苦力的作用 04/29 06:44
→ j3307002: 這樣的庫明家即使交易也很難換回太多的資產 04/29 06:44
→ j3307002: 要拿到冠軍先看灰狼能不能淘汰金哨湖人 04/29 06:45
→ j3307002: 金哨湖人被逼到1-3,但當年詹姆斯逆轉過73勇 04/29 06:45
→ j3307002: 不要忘記阿銀理論上是想看二輪湖勇的 04/29 06:46
→ j3307002: 拿到冠軍當然要吵庫明家啊,他是RFA 04/29 06:46
→ j3307002: 然後這邊又說不能讓庫明家變空氣要拿他換回資產 04/29 06:46
→ j3307002: 不能讓庫明家變空氣要拿他換回資產,然後他又打不出來 04/29 06:47
→ j3307002: 科爾因為戰績壓力也不能放開給庫明家刷數據 04/29 06:47
→ j3307002: 你說庫明家能換來什麼資產呢XD 04/29 06:47
→ j3307002: 上一個鬧翻的普爾也只能換回老化的CP3 04/29 06:48
→ j3307002: 小李可憐了,大概就約走完退休,頂多底薪上車拿冠 04/29 06:48
→ j3307002: 有消息說吉巴G4回歸,我認為沒有必要 04/29 06:49
推 kobebrian: 又扯JK 想引戰喔 04/29 07:06
推 j3307002: kobebrian你誤解了XD 04/29 07:26
推 Takadanobaba: 業力引爆啊。你們這些年挺jk的，兩三年來嘴遍每個 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 早在他前面上場的球員跟安排輪替的教練。球員打爛 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 教練安排不好，看球時嘴一下大家都會，但你們jk粉 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 是每次臭完同隊的隊友跟教練的結論都是要換jk上場 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 。去年jk明顯進步，竟然還開始靠杯神主牌不夠力了 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: ，green退化了，浪花綠不行了，要給jk接班。jk是準 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 備好了嗎？那個技術能力，敢講要curry讓位給他接班 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: ？是要球隊滅團膩。你以前蝦挺wiseman我都懶得笑了 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: ，捧一捧都大逆風了還繼續瞎捧，後來苗頭不對就開 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 始殺wiseman。大聰明走了以後你接著繼續瞎挺jk，我 04/29 07:33
→ Takadanobaba: 看這次又兇多吉少了.... 04/29 07:33
推 j3307002: 如果光看結果論,G3庫明家少上反而贏 04/29 07:38
→ j3307002: G1庫明家DNP贏,G2庫明家上的多輸了 04/29 07:38
→ j3307002: 光看結果論這對庫明家的評價來說其實很不利 04/29 07:39
→ j3307002: 有消息說吉巴G4回歸,若G4吉巴回來,庫明家可能要吃DNP 04/29 07:40
→ j3307002: 當然諷刺地說,勇士的利益有時候不一定與庫明家利益一致 04/29 07:40
推 kobebrian: 我以前挺wiseman是他機體就在那邊不給他試試看難道 04/29 07:42
→ kobebrian: 直接放棄嗎？後來他打到第三個球季還沒成長當然就 04/29 07:42
→ kobebrian: 是認賠啊 原來你投資都是一開始就放棄的啊 懂 04/29 07:42
推 kobebrian: 講到去年他進步主力老化所以要求給他更多球權這件 04/29 07:45
→ kobebrian: 事 看看今年咖哩一個人帶隊是C幾還不夠明顯嗎？沒 04/29 07:45
→ kobebrian: 吉巴來還不給他試著接班是打算讓咖哩帶隊搶狀元嗎 04/29 07:45
→ kobebrian: ？？ 04/29 07:45
→ kobebrian: 沒給他接班 難道沒有滅團嗎 吉巴是天上掉下來的 你 04/29 07:46
→ kobebrian: 不會以為本來那樣勇士有附加賽吧 04/29 07:46
推 kobebrian: 然後業力引爆是什麼意思？是指JK受傷後狀態找不回 04/29 07:47
→ kobebrian: 來嗎？你嘴要不要這麼臭？隊上球員被墊腳受傷你先 04/29 07:47
→ kobebrian: 臭是受傷的球員自己的問題 現在又嘴業力引爆 你人 04/29 07:47
→ kobebrian: 品就這樣而已喔嘻嘻 04/29 07:47
推 kobebrian: 猶記得當初KD KT受大傷的時候詹迷嘴是勇迷業力引爆 04/29 07:50
→ kobebrian: 你現在跟他們好像差不多餒 04/29 07:50
推 kobebrian: 回J33 G3JK 上有沒有贏？ G2本來的game plan因為其 04/29 07:53
→ kobebrian: 中一個超巨受傷被打亂 本來就很難贏 哪有這樣直接 04/29 07:53
→ kobebrian: 牽拖的 04/29 07:53
→ ccccccccccc: 你們兩個要不要私訊吵架就好 看了很久都吵差不多的 04/29 07:56
→ ccccccccccc: 東西 04/29 07:56
推 kobebrian: 他要在板上嘴臭我隨時奉陪啊 他閉嘴我也不會主動找 04/29 07:57
→ kobebrian: 架吵 04/29 07:57
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 08:00
推 JL46: 請板友們討論交流時，儘管想法理念不同...也得顧及網路禮節~ 04/29 08:00
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 08:01
推 Takadanobaba: 我是說你業力引爆....被你瞎挺得兩個高順位一個已 04/29 08:02
→ Takadanobaba: 經gg了，另一個兇多吉少.... 04/29 08:02
→ Takadanobaba: 你不要再臭隊友，接著要哭jk怎麼沒上場，我也不會 04/29 08:03
→ Takadanobaba: 跟你吵 04/29 08:03
推 kobebrian: 我業力引爆什麼？今天受傷的是JK 你是說我害JK受傷 04/29 08:07
→ kobebrian: ？還說自己嘴不臭 04/29 08:07
→ kobebrian: 就跟KD KT受傷 勇迷被嘴業力引爆如出一徹啊 04/29 08:08
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 08:09
→ kobebrian: 還有季中教練團就是嘗試讓JK接班 沒有JK受傷+吉巴 04/29 08:09
→ kobebrian: 來這件事就是「進行式」原班主力老化扛不動就正在 04/29 08:09
→ kobebrian: 發生 看不懂你想表達什麼 04/29 08:09
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 08:23
推 JL46: 夠了！為免因為板友推文交流，而擴大造成衝突，小的鎖文處置 04/29 08:23
推 JL46: 未來再視情況...決定何時解除本文的「鎖文狀態」，以上報告~ 04/29 08:24
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 08:24
推 JL46: 小的已解除本文的「鎖文狀態」，同時有請板友理性討論、交流 04/29 13:53
推 JL46: 提醒Takadanobaba與kobebrian二位，切莫在口舌上爭強鬥狠！ 04/29 13:53
推 JL46: -------------------------------------------------------- 04/29 13:53
推 zyic: 變空氣真的還好 04/29 14:41
推 ithanhunt: 兩個在台灣的球迷在那扯調度ZZZZ JW和JK會被按在板凳上 04/29 16:06
→ ithanhunt: 不是都間接證明目前就是能力還不夠嗎 二就看球加油啦~ 04/29 16:07
→ Broyz: 一堆人就很雙標，整體講別人通靈、酸是球團內部的人嗎，但 04/29 18:10
→ Broyz: 這時候卻又自己能通靈Kerr怎樣怎樣，指責球團調度輪替 04/29 18:10
推 j3307002: 信息不對等就只能猜啊 05/01 00:02