Re: [請益] 請問國泰複委託的美國券商,sipc和fdic

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作者 j0588 ()
時間 2023-05-20 13:52:44
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: 不要再問了 人家SIPC的規則寫在那裏都不看的 就那麼兩段Q&A的文字而已 : 擷取重點翻譯 : Q: Is a non-U.S. corporation eligible for protection from SIPC? : 請問非美國的機構是否適用SIPC? : A: Generally, a corporation organized under non-U.S. law and/or with its : principal place of business outside the United States may qualify as a “ : customer” under the Securities Investor Protection Act and may be eligible : for SIPC protection. A corporation that is a bank or securities broker-dealer : acting on its own behalf, not on behalf of customers, however, is not : eligible for SIPC protection. : 一班來說,非美國的法律下的機構,且/或其機構主要業務範圍是在美國以外,該機構將 : 被視為一個顧客,適用SIPC。然而如果一個機構是銀行或證券業務,如果只代表他自己而 : 不代表全體顧客,那麼將不適用SIPC。 : PS: 如果機構代表他自己一個實體,不受到保護。然而這並不代表機構如果代表整體客戶 : 就一定有保護。若P則Q的等價只有非Q則非P,而不是非P則非Q。SIPC知道有些人沒學 : 過邏輯,所以還有一段Q&A,如下: : Q: I am a customer of a non-U.S. (foreign) brokerage firm that is not a SIPC : member, but that has a relationship with a U.S. brokerage firm that is a : member of SIPC. Am I eligible for SIPC protection? : 我是一個美國以外、其他國家的證券委託機構的客戶,該證券委託機構並非SIPC成員 : 請問我是否仍受到保護? : A: SIPC protection is available only with respect to cash and securities : credited to a customer account at a SIPC-member brokerage firm in liquidation : or in a direct payment procedure under the Securities Investor Protection Act : (SIPA). If a foreign brokerage firm has opened an account for its customers : at a SIPC-member firm, and if the member firm is placed in SIPA liquidation, : each of the foreign firm’s customers may be eligible for SIPC protection on : a pass-through basis. It is important to emphasize that SIPC protection is : only available in a SIPA proceeding, and is not available in any non-SIPA : bankruptcy or insolvency proceeding of a non-SIPC member firm. : SIPC只保護存在SIPC成員機構的帳戶內的現金及證券。如果國外證券機構為其顧客在SIPC : 成員機構都開一個帳戶,當事件發生後,每個顧客均受到保護 : 以上 夠清楚了吧 : 要不我先問問複委託群眾 請問你們複委託的上手券商那邊的帳戶是你的嗎? 號碼是甚麼? : 幾點take-away : 1. 即使券商破產 也不一定要走到SIPC : 2. 複委託的保護 源自於國內券商對你的承諾 而不是SIPC給的承諾 最近也為了這件事在煩惱,所以也去查了相關資料,但看法有點不一樣,首先第一個Q&A已經拿掉查不到了,就不管它 第二個Q&A, If a foreign brokerage firm has opened an account for its customers at a SIPC-member firm, and if the member firm is placed in SIPA liquidation, each of the foreign firm’s customers may be eligible for SIPC protection on a pass-through basis. 注意寫的是open an account for its customers,為複數客戶開設單一帳戶,each of the foreign firm’s customers,每一位外國公司的客戶也許都受到SIPC保障的。 所以重點是國內券商是否為客戶們在上手券商開設户頭,這當然是廢話,沒開戶要怎麼交易? 不確定的是保障額度,是所有客戶共享一個帳戶的50萬鎂保障,還是每一位客戶都有獨立的50萬鎂保障?SIPC用may這個字,說得很保守,不確定性很高,可能是因為沒有先例。 --
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